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Is it true that the "brace" position in a plane crash will not improve your chances of survival and is purely to preserve your dentition for identification purposes?
I'm a former Flight Attendant.
It's actually saved lives... Once on a small aircraft, the only survivor was the one who took the "brace" position.
http://www.casa.gov.au/airsafe/trip/emer gen.htm
Be aware that different airlines have different brace positions. We also had different positions for prepared and unprepared emergencies. They're all basically the same but always see what the airline you're flying wants you to do.
Remember that today, most people *survive* air crashes than die in them. But even if you survive, not taking the brace position could mean being hit by flying objects or having your head thrown around. You want to be in as good shape as possible so that you can get yourself out of the aircraft, and not be dependent on rescue personnel, who may or may not be there, or have enough time to get you out.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/ 0,8599,1872154,00.html?cnn=yes
http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-a-Plane-C rash
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/03/04 /survive.airplane.accident/index.html?er ef=edition_travel#cnnSTCText
Too many people have died because they panicked during the evacuation, went the wrong way, followed the wrong instructions... Why don't you know about it? Because the airlines don't want this information going public. They don't want a grieving family to have insult added to injury that if their loved one had just... You get the picture.
There are accidents which have no survivors. Very sad and scary and no brace position would have saved them. The good news that this doesn't apply to the majority of crashes.
Taking the attitude "We're all going to die" wont help and could get you killed.
People make fun of the safety demo, the brace position, etc. but the truth is that these HAVE saved lives and it is a good idea to take a look at your safety card, know where your closest emergency exit it and so on.
Plus, seriously, do you really think that body preservation is a priority with the airlines?? Trust me, if it doesn't save them money, they're not interested ;)
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why yes i am very well versed in the plane crash survival arts and want to make a career out of it. If you would like some pointers... sitting at the back of the plane is your best bet as the impact is usually at the front of the plane as they usually dive nose first... also if you are pro enough to look out the window and know the exact moment of impact i suggest jumping right as the plane hits the ground and you can go unscathed as you will be in mid air while the impact is on the plane floor below you... then the final stage is crowd shoving and fighting past those slow pokes to be the first 1 out of the plane as there will probably be a big fire and explosion and that could kill you if you werent already dead from the impact.
If you were on a plane going down, not taking into account wind and such, lets say you were standing on top of it, and thusly would be falling at the same speed. If you jumped upwards like two feet before it crashed, not taking into account flames and such, would you live? It seems sorta like you could, cause the world is constantly spinning, and it's the same sort of idea--you take ont eh energy and movement of the larger object you're on, but when you jump you seperate yourself from it and would start over--two feet above ground.
Ideas?
It would not save you because if you are falling fast enough to get killed when you land, then you are falling WAY faster than you can jump. For example, if you jump as hard as you can and can jump 2 meters high, then you have jumped at a little more than 6 meters per second. That is about 14 miles per hour. Now say the crashing airplane is falling at 100 miles per hour. That 14 mile per hour jump from the 100 mile per hour falling airplane results in you still falling at 86 miles per hour. Probably enough to still kill you. Now realize that it isn't the fall that kills you in an airplane crash, it is the forward speed. An airliner is flying at least 150 miles per hour when it lands and may be going 500 miles per hour if it is out of control. So it is like crashing in a car at between 150 and 500 miles per hour, with maybe a comparatively gentle additional fall to top it all off.
All the seats in commercial aircraft are made to be facing backwards, that means we all be facing the tail of the plane when seated?
Perhaps for a standpoint where this can help to minimize injury.
Just a thought :)
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yes it is true. I recently pointed that out here:
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the USAF has rearward facing seats and it was the only "airline" with less fatality in crashes.
death in airliner crashes are caused by flying debris, fire, vaporization, in that order with flying debris being the foremost cause. (probably forgot to mention a few between fire and vaporization)
having the seats face backwards would be very useful in prevent injury caused by flying debris. Also, that position enables the seat and the human to more easily absorb forward deceleration which is crucial in surviving a head-on impact. Airplanes don't back up into a mountain.
Unfortunately, no airline would do it because there were issues of comfort, and increased air-sickness and whatnot. It would make takeoffs and landings more uncomfortable too. (Takeoffs because of the pronounced nose up and landings because you can't see where you're going and it feels like you're crashing) Airplane's are rarely flying 100% level. There is usually always a certain amount of nose-up attitude, usually around 3 degrees nose up. It shouldn't matter but that's another thing to consider.
I have been thinking asbout plane crashes and i was not sure what the poiont of seatbelts on planes are if you are not going to servive does any one know the ration ofd servivels to deaths on plane crashes ?
It would be misleading to lump all airplane crashes together. The more common crashes are survivable, undershoot the runway, overshoot the runway, things like that.
You really only read about the fatal ones and then because there are so many people involved. In our news media, the rule is that if it bleeds, it leads.
Seat belts make small accidents small and protect the passengers from being thrown around the cabin in turbulence.
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